No More Normal is a new show brought to you by the same crew behind YNMG. On episode 1, we’re talking endurance. In the last few months, how many times have you heard someone say, “We’re in this for the long haul”? It’s going to take all kinds of gritty willpower to keep each other alive and to make it through the changes in our world. This week we learn from younger folks. We get lessons, advice and stories from civil rights activists. We talk about the endurance of people who’ve been fighting racist mascots and imagery for decades. And we tag along for a long run in the brutal heat.

Liz McKenzie runs 20 miles in the Albuquerque summer heat wearing a mask, and carries a recorder along with her for the show. Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham lays out a possible timeframe for the pandemic based on data and the hope that a vaccine will be available early next year (we included a much longer version of that interview in the online version of the show above). We hear from several younger adults about how they’re hanging in there despite social isolation and what this has meant for their long-term goals. Poet, cultural strategist and KUNM DJ Ebony Isis Booth offers us thoughts on endurance and a poem by Lucille Clifton.

We also hear from Richard Moore, a founder of the Black Berets, about what it takes for movements to last. Former Black Panther Party member Aaron Dixon talks about how the fight for justice and community wellness is never over. A. Billi Free and Tensei from southern New Mexico offer up a song about hanging in there even when your back’s up against the wall. Navajo Nation President Jonathan Nez tells us about what his community is enduring and gives us his take on the Washington football team finally changing its racist name after years of work from activists. And host Khalil Ekulona talks to fans of the team and The Prognosticators, a crew of sports wonks he formed to hash things out in detail.

Next week: Disappearing Acts

Hear the show on KUNM’s airwaves Sundays at 11 am, or find it wherever you get your podcasts.

Special thanks to: Cheo Melendez and Jazztone the Producer for sharing their music with the show. Ty Bannerman and Hannah Colton jumped in on the editing. Zack Freeman contributed the original artwork for this episode. Khaki, Pope Yes Yes Y’all, and Bigawatt composed the show’s theme music. Vanessa Bowen of Bowen Creative designed our logo.